EP 112: Becoming a Millionaire Mother with Cait Scudder

“The superwoman archetype is killing us. We rise when we let ourselves be supported.”

This one’s a rewire for every ambitious mama out there.

In this powerful episode, Meg is joined by the radiant Cait Scudder, leadership mentor, mother of three, and creator of The Millionaire Mother brand, for a truth-packed convo on what it really takes to lead in business while raising kids without burning out or betraying yourself.

They go deep into the unseen mental load mothers carry, the nervous system capacity required to lead, and why we need to stop pretending we’re doing this alone. Kate shares her story of rebranding her entire business after her second baby, building home systems that actually work, and what it looks like to embody the matriarch archetype.

🔥 Here's what we dive into:

• Why you don’t have to choose between your babies and your business
• Releasing the "superwoman" myth and rewriting what success looks like
• Masculine vs. feminine energy in motherhood + business
• Why nervous system bandwidth is the foundation for sustainable leadership
• The mindset shift from “good girl” to matriarch
• Home SOPs, rhythms, and the sacred structure behind her success
• Why receiving support is the most powerful gift you can model for your kids
  
  

If you’ve ever felt like you had to do it all to be a good mom, this episode is your permission slip to do it differently.

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Transcript

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I think it's very common when we are in, pregnancy and, and waiting for. Well the can happen whether it's your first kid or even later. But, I think it's so normal. You know, we fear the unknown. We don't know what we don't know. And this was absolutely my experience as well, Meg. Like, I remember when I was pregnant with Ella, peeing on that stick and being elated. Just so happy. Best news in the whole world. And my very next thought was, fuck, like, I'm gonna have to. I remember crying to my coach at the time and being like, I built the wrong business. I should have built like an Amazon dropship. Big company. Like I'm never going to be able to and really, like, truly, that was my thing. And, and the experience that you are speaking to is so important because it's the side of motherhood that we don't see talked about Yo yo yo lovers. Welcome, welcome, welcome to sex, love and everything in between. Where the O'Neals. You're here with Meg and Jacob. And this is the place we have really uncensored conversations about sex, intimacy and relationships. Well, super excited you're here. Enjoy this episode. It. Thanks, Meg. I'm happy to be here. I. Completely. Am 100%. I. Thanks, Meg. Well, I thank you so much for the beautiful introduction. And, you know, it's so it's touching. And it's also such confirmation of exactly why this brand exists. You know, I rebranded my company. I founded my company in 2017, and it was the the catalyst event to rebrand my company from my name, Kate Scudder to the Millionaire mother was my the birth of my second child. And it completely rocked my world in the best possible way. And I really realized that no longer could motherhood just be this, like side conversation. A little like one off program that I like, sneak into my offers. Sweet, kind of lingering on the side. It was woven into every single, and it was woven into the core fabric of my day, of my rhythm, of my company, of my mission, of my legacy, of my why. It was everywhere inextricable. And nobody was talking about that. Nobody was. We had like, you know, mommy content and then business content and the occasional mention of like, doing both. But there was such a gaping hole that I saw of like, what does it actually look like to hold both worlds? What does it actually look like in the practical, in the day to day and the rhythmic in the nervous system capacity and the energetic bandwidth? What about our relationship tips? Like what about all these other ingredients that ambitious moms are holding? And I use the analogy a little bit, you know, and this was my experience. I think it's different for every woman. But for me, when I had my first, obviously there was such a massive identity shifts going from maiden to mother, and that was huge. But from a practical like day to day rhythm standpoint, like, okay, sure, you're figuring out breastfeeding and sleep and feeds and spit up and so much fucking laundry. But the day to day wasn't actually like massively different. I mean, it totally was massively different. But what I mean is when I had my second, when now it was like, oh, I'm postpartum, I'm with a baby still. My my second was born when my daughter was 19 months old. It it was like the analogy of like having my first child felt like, okay, I'm walking in from the grocery store doing the mom thing of holding all the bags and having the baby was like, pick me up one more bag with a pinky finger and walking in like, I could kind of do it. It was like crazy and a little awkward and juggling, but I could do it. Having the second was just like someone, like dumping four more bags on top of me and everything bottoming out and being like, I need to fundamentally figure out how to repack and reconfigure absolutely everything. So I just share that because that was really what catalyzed the rebirth of my business and the emergence of the millionaire mother brand as as the brand to serve mothers, holding both worlds. Oh my God. Literally. I was just recording. It's so funny that you say that. I was just recording a story. Meg, just before we, went live here, about my day today. And this is just like a snapshot. I feel like we're in a moment right now in the industry. You know, when I started my business, it was really in the. The digital marketing space was very bro marketing. It was like traffic funnels, countdown timers. One time offer. Like it was very much in that grow marketing space. And then I feel like around 2020, we saw this pendulum shift into feminine business, like soft girl era, You know, lean back. Like somehow we started, like, praising business models that required us, like, not to work at all. And I think it, you know, and I think everything is a manifestation, in the industry, I think there is the natural law of the universe of, like, self-healing, orienting towards wholeness and thriving organisms. We see this in nature. We see this in the body. Like platelets rush to our blood, like there is this self-healing, self-correcting impulse that happens everywhere in the natural world. It happens in the industry. And I think that what was happening then was it was a necessary correction from this overly transactional conversion focus burn and churn thing. But what I think happened with this swing towards quote unquote feminine business is like this idea that, we should just, like, close our eyes, get in a bathtub, and, like, cash is just going to fall on our face. And it really fucked a lot of women up because it made us feel like, hang and made us feel like. Hold on a minute. Am I doing something wrong? Like, I'm not just doing that? And what we saw a lot of women who like leading those conversations is like preaching one thing, but not showing the other side of another. So anyway, I'm all about the practical. And as I was saying, I was just recording a story like, we are in a massive growth portal inside of our company, taking our work and our mission foremothers to the next level, spearheading and pioneering that intersection between motherhood, ambition and legacy. And so last week, we just onboarded four new team members, and our just growing super, super, rapidly, but intentionally. And anyway, I was sharing in my story that, we, these team members are from all over the world where I'm obviously in Sydney, Australia right now as a temporary thing. We have a team member that we just onboarded in Asia. Team members from different sides and corners of the US. And anyway, I'm, I am the CEO of this company. And so the only time that worked for everybody to me was at 3 a.m. my time. And so it was literally just sharing that how I made that work as a mom who is like, committed to not burning out, committed to like being the embodiment of thriving and regenerative self-care, to be able to pour from myself, you know, overflowing capacity as opposed to like operating from this depletion model. I went to bed at 730 with my kids last night, and I woke up at 230 so that I had seven hours of sleep. I was able to do this, and I shared the, like, practical nitty gritty. Not to say like, okay, if you want to be a mom, you have to like, you know, work in the middle of the night and whatever. But I just think that, the, the practical piece of like how we make the puzzle work, I think there's such a dominant, culture and conversation in the motherhood and entrepreneurship space of, like, you have to choose or everything has a season or you know, we're so oriented to look for the reasons why not as opposed to seeking solutions. So I just give you that like practical thing of like, I'm in a season where it is absolutely my values and important to me to embody the frequency of leadership and vision as the CEO for an expanding team and expanding brand and expanding company. And today, that meant showing up at three in the morning. Not something I want to make a habit of, not something I want to do, but something that you better believe I was prepared to do for this. But I also wasn't going to let that make me take a hit to my care, because if I don't sleep, I'm not able to show up for my kids. I'm not able to show up for the work that's required of me. So what's the adjustment? Go to bed at 730. Oh, again, not something I'm doing every day, but I just want to share that practical example because it's that, like solutions oriented thinking that I think is so necessary for moms who are asking themselves, well, how do I do both? Oftentimes we think, I can't invent more hours in the day, and it's like, okay, but can you rearrange them? Hello my loves, I am interrupting this episode to let you know that Full Spectrum Woman Live is happening again here on the Gold Coast on the 7th of June, and you are going to want to be in this room. We had the first one back in Feb and it was an un fucking forgettable day. Like it was truly, so deeply transformative that with 80 something women in the room a day devoted to awakening the feminine in your body, awakening the feminine in your lineage, doing the work that your mother, your grandmother, your great grandmother. So many women in your line couldn't write. Really owning yourself as the chain breaker and being the woman, the erotically alive, wild, untamed, fully express woman that the world has taught you not to be, is told you not to be. And this imagine that 80 plus women in a room devoted to that being, that embodying, that awakening that yes, it gets wild. Yes, it gets very raw. Yes, we are sounding and moving and really being our full expression together. There is also teaching. There is also Q&A, there's group coaching with, Jacob and I. My man comes onto the stage and you can ask the masculine questions again. I cannot really put into the words what unfolds in this day the transformation that's possible. But also if you're asking for a deep sisterhood, if you're asking to be witnessed and to be around women that are also deeply passionate about really, truly living a true life and truly being the embodiment of the feminine living this body led life, you need to be in this room. We have, close to 50 tickets already sold. There is limited spaces, so if you were keen, come and join us. Tickets are $159, or you can get a ticket for you and someone you love. At a discount. So head to. Meg O'Neill, which is owned by double Elle.com forward slash FS w Dash live. So that's forward slash live or easy. Just go to the link in, the show notes or go to my Instagram or, you know, you'll find it somewhere if you really want to come. I cannot wait to be in the room with you on the 7th of June, I love ya! Enjoy the rest of the episode. You. Oh my gosh! 100. 100%. I love that you're bringing this in. And I love how this even ties into this, like, idea of, like, feminine and, quote unquote energetics in business and masculine energetics in business, and feminine and masculine energetics in motherhood as well. And when you think I can't remember who it was that I first heard talk about this, but, when we think about motherhood as a practice, you know, in so many ways it's like the consummate expression of femininity, right? We become the vessel of life. We we give life. Like that Spanish phrase like de la luce where like giving the light of ourselves coming through. We are the portal, the cosmic bridge between the unseen in the seen world. And so we think, oh, mothering is so, you know, it's all about being in your feminine. Then your kid becomes a toddler and you realize, oh, actually, so much of motherhood, it's not just being in that like cushy, rosy cheeked, milky oneness. It is so much about being in the frequency of the masculine. And I don't mean like, you know, whatever overtones or images come to mind when I say that if you're listening to this, just pay attention to that. I don't mean like being aggressive or strong voiced or anything like that. I mean, sending the container. So much of motherhood is about holding the frequency of container organization. You are the architect of the rhythm of your home. And I think this is where that like all the groceries toppling over, that like cartoon banana peel, like everything falls to the ground moment comes to place. Because when it's just us, we can operate in our feminine and flow like as you said, Meg, like, I feel like working today, I don't what does my body want to do? That's fine for like a grown adult. But in a home, especially with children with like research back developmental needs, kids thrive on rhythm, routine, schedule. And it doesn't have to be like routine. 801 do this. 805 whatever. But a rhythm, a predictable rhythm. And without that, their nervous systems go wonky, which like, it's just this, like, tragic domino effect of chaos. You know, as they grow and develop. And so this piece of having home systems, having home rhythms is non-negotiable. And it's a huge part of my body of work that, again, I think is largely unaddressed in the business space. We want to keep the conversations like growing and scaling strategies without talking about the soil in which we are planting our businesses. So there's two things that I would say upfront when it comes to, those home systems. The first are your actual like systems tools. What are you creating? I know it might sound crazier, overly formalized in clients when I first like, bring this up or like what? And then they're like, oh, are your home like SOPs, standard operating procedures? So those things that you think are, you know, silly. Why would I need to write that down again? Especially if we, have been used to doing everything in this one off way. Exactly as you said, Meg, it takes so much energy. Think about this every time a babysitter comes over. My mom used to do this on, like, a yellow legal pad from staples. Like writing out the instructions. Here's what the dog gets. Here's what the kid needs. Here's the bedtime routine. Imagine needing to pour that from your brain onto that every single time a new babysitter came over, or every single packing trip, you know, needing to sit down and originate that packing list from scratch and building about your home back end is really about having a system that holds that mental load for you. So you are not doing that. And one of the things that I teach inside of my programs is how to build that out and how to, because we are in this like ever evolving, cutting technology way, how to leverage AI to hold the mental load with you. So that's what we teach our clients inside of our programs. And then the second piece that I would say, especially if you are operating in partnership, is to build out your rhythms. So there's systems and then there's rhythms. Rhythms are like what is your schedule? But it's not about like nit picky organizing, getting better at like, I don't know, like batch working or the Pomodoro method. That's great. And I'm not knocking that. I think that can be really helpful. But do you have a predictable rhythm where things go just like, I don't know if you're into like home organizing or decluttering or anything, Meg, but just like, you know, so many amazing Marie Kondo esque teachers will talk about or like feng shui, people will talk about giving everything a place, minimizing clutter, like taking physical objects away and having a physical space for things. We need to start thinking about having a space for certain topics in our time, in our schedule, and in our calendar. And so locating, having a space not just in physical space, but also a space in terms of time. And so one of the things that my husband and I do, that is a fucking game changer, it went from feeling like we just had 100 tabs open at all time of like the junk drawer of our minds of because and the more kids you have, the more needs are there are. It's like whack a mole. There's like each individual kids needs, the family need. Throw in the fact that we're like, you know, from two different countries and so many different things going on. And it's just there's like this endless list of tabs. One of the things that we do is we have a regular Sunday meeting where it's like our weekly overview of just like you would have, like with your, you know, CEO or something or, or your co-CEO, like a weekly stand up mapping out the meet the week and like looking ahead, we do that as a team at home. We do that when the kids are sleeping on a Sunday and it is the best. And then every Friday we have a finance meeting. So we talk about money, we talk about finances, we talk about accounts and tax and like all sorts of different things as it relates to money. But we know that those are the things that help us get stuff done. And what I've noticed since we implemented this is that the feeling of overwhelm, of like all these different threads open during the week, there are still things that are going to come up. It's not like, you know, we never talk about logistics during the week because we've talked about it all on a Sunday. Of course not that there's things that come up, but there's so much more organized and it's so much clearer who owns what. And it is the best. So it really makes a huge difference to think about organizing your time in that way. I want to kind of like. I mean, I feel like I, I just gave the the overview for sure. And I would say, you know, Yeah, I mean, I could talk the whole time about that, about. I. If you want to know more about that, you can just message me about that. But, no, I'm happy to evolve the conversation wherever you want to go. Make. I love this question so much. And I think it's very common. I think it's very common when we are in, pregnancy and, and waiting for. Well the can happen whether it's your first kid or even later. But, I think it's so normal. You know, we fear the unknown. We don't know what we don't know. And this was absolutely my experience as well, Meg. Like, I remember when I was pregnant with Ella, peeing on that stick and being elated. Just so happy. Best news in the whole world. And my very next thought was, fuck, like, I'm gonna have to. I remember crying to my coach at the time and being like, I built the wrong business. I should have built like an Amazon dropship. Big company. Like I'm never going to be able to and really, like, truly, that was my thing. And, and the experience that you are speaking to is so important because it's the side of motherhood that we don't see talked about and motherhood in the like larger cultural space is very much branded. And, I mean, I could go off I don't know how much you want me to go off, but, there. Are. There's so many places in motherhood even like, let's just take childbirth, for example. The sensationalized Hollywood painted portrayal of childbirth is that it's painful, it's horrible. It's screams in the hospital. It's like slapping our partner and doing all of this like it's just the worst thing ever. When really, I don't know. And honoring so deeply every single woman's experience. I've had three very different experiences, all powerful in their own way. Some traumatic, some just unfucking believable. Otherworldly in the best possible way. And and, you know, everything in between. But we were painted with a negativity bias when it comes to motherhood. And so this fear of, I'm not going to be able to do both. I, you know, entrepreneurship is going to take me away from motherhood. And even this idea of, like, and it's not even an idea. There's so much there's there is women who are deeply, deeply respect with bodies of work that are so important about the importance of, you know, the first three years, the first seven years, these are pivotal and it's undeniable. The data is is, doesn't lie. These are PivotTable, pivotal Windows in a child's life where their neurological pathways, their nervous system development, so much of their formative foundational template and imprinting is happening in these early years. And I think that a lot of the solutions that are presented at large in the culture are prioritized one or the other, like, don't have kids until you're prepared to, like, take a break and just focus on them because they need it. And again, I am so grateful for the voices that are advocating for the importance, the developmental importance of those first three years where I see the refinement and where I see that there's something missing, is we are being taught the model that has existed for women is either in the like, corporate or, you know, career space working for somebody else. There's obviously such a lack of infrastructure in the United States, especially, although I think it can be improved. You know, in so many countries, there's there's many countries that have beautiful infrastructure. But the United States is abysmal. And it's support for mothers and maternal leave and an infrastructure that actually supports moms with careers. So it it makes sense that taking a break and picking one or the other is the very real choice that many mothers feel like they have to make. But then on the entrepreneurial side, you know, so many of the templates and the models that we've seen and I really appreciate your show share, Meg, because I feel like it really highlights, you know, either you've got like the bro marketers without kids, like doing videos telling you to work weekends if you want to get ahead or you have the feminine, you know, meetings like floating in an infinity pool in Bali with like a fruit tray being like, I think I'll like give myself three orgasms and like start my workday at 1 p.m. and we wonder why moms are ripping their fucking hair out because they're like, neither one of those is going to work for me. And so the way that I see it, the millionaire mother body of work method, the way that we support moms is to reimagine this sacred third, this new way of running a company that actually supports you to be there and nurture your family, develop those healthy, critical, important bonds in those early years. But just as you're saying, Meg, to be able to harness and channel and move that creative energy that is is moving through you energetically, this happens to so many women and do something with it, and not be told, like to be a good mom and prioritize motherhood and don't miss it. And just you wait and you blink and they're going to be older and you can build your business any time. Like I think there's like a real subtle undercurrent of shame in that of if a moms who choose to keep working not because not just because, you know, having a second stream of income, if you're a two income household is important and necessary for so many women, but also because we want to, not because we don't care about our kids, but because it's like that expression of our ambition is a fundamental part of who we are and how we orient and frankly, even how we want to show up as a mother, as a visionary, as a creative, as a leader. And that outlet in our business is actually fueling that part of ourselves which pours into our motherhood, not a distraction keeping us away. So we are just in this really cool, uncharted territory of motherhood, ambition, culture, and the possibilities that exist for moms. 100%. It's so true. And I love that perspective. And I also love that you share that piece around, you know, the supportive partner. I mean, I make no secret of that. Having Toby, who is just such a rock and an anchor in so many ways, is everything. I mean, I think that viral trend of like, I'm a strong, independent woman, I rely on nobody and then like, cut to, hey, I'm nobody. I like, do all of this stuff. That is absolutely the case. And again, this is part of undoing the myth and undoing the cultural obsession with being self-made. This like idea of being a self-made millionaire or being self-made. It's so it's so damaging and it's so. And I'm all about women celebrating, like pulling themselves up and creating something new, 1,000,000%. And so from that perspective, I think that self celebration aspect is beautiful and it's important and it's healing and it's necessary, but it also doesn't tell the whole story and the whole story is that we rise through reciprocity being poured into so that we can then create. And this idea I think this notion of superwoman or supermom, again, it just creates this false expectation in women's minds of like, if I can't just like, create it and be self-made like Kate or like Meg or like whoever, I'm doing something wrong. And the reality is, the mate school way of running a business and doing business is to acknowledge the reciprocity, the way the ecosystem that we form part of and all of the relationships and nutrients that are pouring into me as leader, as mother, as CEO, as visionary. So that I am able to pour from a state of overflow into others. So, like removing this pedestal, the idea that Superwoman, you know, CEO, girlboss, whatever is doing it all and just has infinite capacity and humanizing the interconnected web that she is a part of. Yes! Oh my gosh. It's. It is everything. And we talk about this all the time. Inside of closed doors, inside of my community. It's like that tap for so many of us. And I think part of it is generational and like what is culturally appropriate or is seen as normal in, you know, different generations and eras. But I don't know about you, Meg, but like my mom, my best friend, I love her so much, like the most amazing human ever. It was normal when I was growing up for, like, the mom to do everything. And that is the model and the template and the inheritance of what motherhood looks like for so many. And so that it is an active muscle that so many women and mothers and women who are at that threshold of motherhood are having to learn and relearn and retrain themselves in is finding safety in receiving support. And I think it is the number one gift we can give our kids is showing themselves that we believe and know ourselves to be worthy enough of receiving support of being held and investing in ourselves, investing in relationships, investing in head and heart and hands and home support to help us hold and carry the visions that we have and the work that we do, and not making that mean that we're a failure. Not feeling guilty about it, not feeling bad about it. It is the medicine and we only can. We can't be operating from a smarter frequency operating system while saying to our daughters, you know, believe in yourself and have self-worth and whatever because they don't it the research there was just a I just posted about this yesterday. There was a study done out of Cambridge that said 80% of how our kids inherit beliefs about money and this is money. But, you know, receiving is the through line, right? Whether it's receiving support, receiving money, our children inherit 80% of their worldview as it relates to money and finances, not from observing our instructions as parents, but by observing their parents behavior. And so if they are watching our kids are watching mommy constantly saying, no, no, it's fine. Constantly, completely do a four hour clean of the house before the hired house kitchen cleaner comes over. Anyone else's mom do that? If we are watching that, we are hard coding. It's not okay to rest. It's. I have to do it all for it to be done. Well, it has to be done by me. And so I am so fierce and unapologetic about it is literally our work to undo that in ourselves so that we don't pass it on to a future generation. Oh good. Right. Like. Why? Why are we like this? Why do we do this as moms? Right? Well, what is 1,000,000%? And I'm so happy you brought the good girl frequency. And because it's so true and the fear of judgment. Right, I am not. Oh, my gosh, I don't want somebody else to see my hot mess. Oh, they're coming in to do me a favor into my business, into my home. I don't want to make their life harder. And it's like, I'm sorry, what man is thinking I don't want, like, this person that I have hired, created a job for and hired to come help me in this core area. What man is making it a fault of his character? It his work ethic, his personal loyalty, his embodiment in the world to receive help, I will tell you. Zero. And so that is just such an invitation for us to look at and unwind and undo and recognize that letting go of this like good girl needing to hyper control other people's perception of us, we are. We are creating and stepping into and ushering in a whole new archetype of what it means to be a feminine leader, what it means. And I use that archetype and that frequency of the matriarch. A matriarch is somebody who is she is have benevolent steward. She is a, visionary. She is a space holder. She has this, like, regal undertone of knowing her worth, but not in this, like, cackling Cruella de Vil. Like, you know, evil, materialistic sort of way, but in this way of recognizing that when I allow myself to be poured into and a matriarch has the highest of the high level support, she is resourced because she allows herself to receive the being poured into. She allows herself to be poured into so she can then pour from herself and be more benevolent. And we don't want a matriarch who is like, oh, like, should I really do that? Or running around like, just imagine if in that example, she were running around trying to do every single thing. So one of the things that I do in my business, Meg, is I host a retreat on my land at our 12 acre farm in Maine every single year called homecoming. And I've run it for years now. And one of the and I've run other retreats at my home and one of the persistent reflections that I receive from the women and mothers who come to my land and witness me in my home, is like the transmission of watching you be in that matriarch frequency in your own home, not from treating, you know, the the staff and the support there, who's there to help and do the hands tests, heating up the quiches and whatever. Like you are so loving and appreciative of them, but you're not apologetic and you're not trying to run around doing their job like you let yourself hold the frequency, hold the energy. And that is medicinal. That changes sell the really rearranges for so many women what we think we have to do in order to be a good woman, a good leader, a good mother. And what is really interesting, I've actually talked with our housekeeper in Maine about this. And you know, what is so interesting about this is like, we create, we think, oh my gosh, I'm like, so guilty. Who am I to deserve x, y, z type of support? Whether it's in our business, like can I possibly invest in mentorship? I haven't made enough. I haven't proved it to myself. All of these like rubbish stories. We tell ourselves that I'm not ready or I'm not worthy. It's literally just bullshit that our brain is trying to convince us of because of this subtle undertone. But when we actually recognize, oh, that investment in being poured into into me is a strengthening of the frequency of worthiness, of receiving love and support. And that is possibly the number one generational inheritance that your kids will receive. When we recognize that that is what we're doing. And like the particular subject area is just like gravy on the top, like, cool, you're going to get business support. You're going to get like home system support. You're going to get all of this. You're going to get housekeeping support. The real investment is I am showing to myself that I am worthy of being held and supported. That changes the game. Yes. Yes, I have a yes, a million. So I've created a guide for you for exactly this. It's called rewire for millions. You can DM me. I'll send you the link mag. You can put it in the show notes, but it is the rewire for millions guide. And it's going to give you practical steps, five practical things follow up exercises, somatic practices. It's going to change the game. So absolutely start there and start listening to the Millionaire Mother podcast. Binge it like Netflix. Listen to it around the clock, stay plugged in because this is the space where you are going to learn to calibrate to a different understanding. Yep. 100% fiercer boundaries. More unapologetic no's like discernment in what is a priority in this season and not. And again, not feeling bad about this. And wouldn't you know it, there's the good girl. Yet again we say how much do we say yes to that we actually don't want to do. And I say all the time, like the more children I have, the more I'm like unapologetic about like, nope, absolutely not. Not a priority. And it's really helpful to like make those things clear. Also, in just coming back to the practical tips of like in those, you know, family leadership meetings with your partner, talk about that together, talk about your family values in this season, just like we have like company KPI setting, goal setting. Like, what are your family's goals and priorities this year? Not every year is the same. Some years it's a growth goal. Some years it's a maintenance in a in a grounding. Some years it's something different. But if you're not in a season where something is a priority, then just own it and don't make yourself wrong for it. Yeah. 100%. 100%. And I think that that good girl. We just. It's one of the things we just have to let go. And I love Mel Robbins. Like, let them work for that. It's like, cool. You have that perception of me, that judgment of me, that story about me. And it's not to say like we become like invincible and we never have, like, you know, feel shaken by things or something, but we just, like, I don't have time for that. I don't have time to preoccupy myself with worrying about what you think of me. I am going to devote my energy into living my values out loud, being the truth of who I am. And if you have another story, that's you. Like I've got other shit to do. I've got mouths to feed, butts to wipe, a business to run, a husband to love. And that's what I'm going to be doing over here. A hundred. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 100%. I love that. What I will say is that, part of the work is moving from hearing conversations like this and being like, That was so inspiring. These women are so inspiring. And I get that because I did that forever. And I just think that, like, the transformation that becomes possible when we shift our selves concept and identity from like, looking, observing, watching, listening. And I'm so happy that you are listening to this, but like to conversations like this. As an onlooker, seeing somehow all of this as something that is available to you, like at a later stage or at a little later point. What I just want to say is like this. You get to like, step into this, you get to step into this embodiment, and you don't have to do it by yourself. And I just think that perhaps the most revolutionary, healing, powerful thing that you can do for yourself is to get yourself inside of rooms where these conversations are the new normal, where these conversations actually help you cellular rewire neurologically rewire the pathways and possibilities that you tell yourself are possible for you, and create a new legacy for your lineage, for your company, for your family, for your finances. It is all available so my hope is that you that this is the spark, and not just where the ember goes to die, but this is the spark of a whole new flame that fans for you. 1,000,000%. So I am, the millionaire mother on Instagram. You can find me there. The millionaire mother.com. I have my own podcast, the Millionaire Mother podcast. And yeah, I'm there in all the places and I would love for you to DM me if you listen to this, tell me what resonated. Tell me what you're really taking home with you. And I mentioned that rewire for millions guide. So yeah, those are all the places to come plug in and come say hi. It's me and my DMs and I would love to connect with you. Thank you so much, Meg. It's so great to connect with you. And thank you so much for the invitation. Yo yo yo. Thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of sex, love and Everything in between. Now, if you'd like to stay connected with Megan, you can head on over to Instagram and follow me at the Jacob O'Neil. And where can people find you? Love her at the dot, Megan O. Amazing. And yeah, guys, check out the show notes for all other information in regards to what we've got coming up. And yeah, we're super, super grateful that you guys have taken the time to listen in to this podcast. If you do have any topics or any questions, like I said, hit us up on Instagram and we'll see what we can do apart from that. Have a beautiful, beautiful rest of your day. Thanks for being. Here. Big, big love.